Round-up: Peer cities & modern streetcars


11 Comments so far

  1. benkrakh October 2nd, 2009 2:30 pm

    If OKC jumps ahead of KC as far as transit goes, I may have to kill myself (or just move, which is looking like more of a possibility every day).

  2. northlander October 2nd, 2009 5:07 pm

    If only KC would have looked more at streetcars they would be running now. See above list that want streetcars. To bad no one listened

  3. ben October 7th, 2009 11:55 am

    Also, Fort Worth is moving forward with their streetcar plans:

  4. Dave October 7th, 2009 12:03 pm

    thanks for the reminder. i added fort worth to the list. dallas supposedly applied for a streetcar line from TIGER as well, but i haven’t seen any reports on that lately.

  5. Max October 7th, 2009 12:26 pm

    Boise, Tucson, Oklahoma City, Fort Worth. Hmmm, all dense vibrant urban communities. KC is too sprawled and auto-centric for rail to work here!!!!

    I’m kidding.

  6. benkrakh October 7th, 2009 2:51 pm

    OKC is dense?! News to me. I have family there and visit fairly often. It is the epitome of a spread out cow town. Kansas City is becoming more and more dense in the urban core. The city has been sprawled out due to a lack of rail transit. You should really know what you’re talking about before you comment on these kind of things…

  7. benkrakh October 7th, 2009 2:52 pm

    ohhh…damn..i’m a real DB. I must be in a bad news today…i didn’t realize the “just kidding”. I cannot apologize enough….

    I also couldn’t agree more…

  8. Dave October 7th, 2009 2:55 pm

    OKC is one of the few places in the US that has lower average density than KC does. of course, what matters is the density where you put transit (which is much higher than the citywide averages you usually see, since big chunks of KC proper are still undeveloped).

    river-crown-plaza is dense enough to support rail transit… period.

  9. benkrakh October 7th, 2009 6:23 pm

    I would even argue that Chastain’s 35 miles line, while extending far into the north and far into the south, is still operating in a dense enough area.

    The city is even pretty dense as far south as waldo.

  10. [...] Cities across the country have been actively planning modern streetcar lines, mostly with the intent of reviving their urban cores. Moving more transit riders is still critical, but secondary to the economic development motive. While the previous administration dithered, cities moved ahead and proved them wrong; Portland, the darling of new urbanism, was at the forefront. [...]

  11. Platemaker December 9th, 2009 1:56 pm

    Well benkrakh… hope you don’t kill yourself…

    Yesterday, December 8th, OKC voters approved the $777 million dollar MAPS 3 initiative that will build approximately 6 miles of streetcar track in central OKC along with 7 other projects.

    The initiative proposes a diverse list of eight projects:

    * A new, approximately 70-acre central park linking the core of downtown with the Oklahoma River
    * A new rail-based streetcar system, plus potential funding for other rail transit initiatives, such as commuter lines and a transit hub
    * A new downtown convention center
    * Sidewalks to be placed on major streets and near facilities used by the public throughout the City
    * 57 miles of new public bicycling and walking trails throughout the City
    * Improvements to the Oklahoma River, including a public whitewater kayaking facility and upgrades intended to achieve the finest rowing racecourse in the world
    * State-of-the-art health and wellness aquatic centers throughout the City designed for senior citizens
    * Improvements to the Oklahoma State Fairgrounds